http://search.deviantart.com/?q=by:bob-artist&section=today deviantART RSS for by:bob-artist en-us Copyright 2009, deviantART.com Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:56:17 PST deviantART.com http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://s.deviantart.com/minish/widgets/apple-touch-icon-precomposed.png http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/28631249/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/28631249/ Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:46:34 PST NaNoMangO was a success!

In case anyone was wondering, I'm not ceasing work on this story just because I hit the 30-page mark. I have the next 3 pages drawn already and plan to continue, though I'll need to slow down the pace a bit. Between work and this comic, I've been neglecting an awful lot of other stuff in my life.

However, I will not be posting new sketch pages on DA. I think only 2 or 3 people are reading it here who don't also follow me through other websites, and DA is so much more of a hassle to upload to. To those of you who would like to keep up with the story, please check my new poll or leave a comment and let me know where you'd like to see new pages posted!

The story: Ludwig the Rock
Summary: the story of a wayward rock and the girl who befriends him -- a girl who, in a purely technological world, dreams of growing a garden.

By the way, there are "previous" and "next" links on each page, so it's easy to read through the pages.

Characters Sketch Dump:


START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY: Scene 1: "A Second Chance"


Pages 21-30


GASP! I forgot my random thought of the day. Here it is:

Does anyone name their kid "Ned" anymore?

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/28489408/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/28489408/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:42:35 PST NaNoMangO, a challenge to draw 30 comic pages in 30 days. I'm still ahead of schedule, though. Today (last day of week 3), I'll complete page 27 and probably a couple more in addition. I'm really counting on Thanksgiving weekend to help push me up in the page count. At this point I'd be happy if I completed 40-45 pages. That would also make up for the chapter title pages -- being who I am, I feel guilty counting them as pages since they're so simple.

This is the second scene of Ludwig the rock, or at least the first half of it. I've finished drawing this scene, but we'll have to wait till next week before I post it! (btw, I'm posting the pages to DA about a week after I post them to NaNoMangO.) In my opinion, pages 21-26 are the best!

The story: Ludwig the Rock
Summary: the story of a wayward rock and the girl who befriends him -- a girl who, in a purely technological world, dreams of growing a garden.

By the way, there are "previous" and "next" links on each page, so it's easy to read through the pages.

Characters Sketch Dump:


START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY: Scene 1: "A Second Chance"


Scene 2: "A Day in the Life of a Techie" (pages 14-20)




Random thought of the day: How exactly did I fall in love with guyliner? :shakes head:

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/28229513/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/28229513/ Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:39:55 PST NaNoMangO this season, meaning that during the month of November, I will be drawing 30 comic pages (or more). So far, I'm in good shape and having lots of sleep-deprived, caffeinated fun.

In this first week, I managed to complete the first scene of the story (which I used to call the prologue until I realized it'd be 13 pages long and thought that felt too long for a prologue. ^_^) Since these are only sketch pages, I'm posting them to my scraps. At the end of each week, I'll post a journal entry with the week's pages.

The story: Ludwig the Rock
Summary: the story of a wayward rock and the girl who befriends him -- a girl who, in a purely technological world, dreams of growing a garden.

Characters Sketch Dump:


This Week's Pages -- Scene 1: "A Second Chance"


Today's random thought: Winter is the best, because it makes ferrets double in... ]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/27712774/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/27712774/ Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:10:53 PDT

So what's been up? Well, been developing a crapload of collectibles at my job as a product developer/art director. And I've been examining my approach to artwork as a whole, and how I'm going to steer my portfolio. I've finally found my direction, which will be revealed in my next illustrations after the sort of brainless one I'm struggling to complete at the moment...

I've also renewed my efforts to make progress on Unholy. During November I'll be working on a different comic, though. It's not technically a nanomango thing because I'm not limiting myself to 30 pages, but I'm using the month as an excuse to do a complete story. Just a sketch comic, but it'll be super cute! Maybe I'll post some process work for it this month.

Also, from now on I will try to include a completely random comment in each of my journal entries. Why? Eh... Just because.

Today's random comment: I miss back when episodes of The Office were about, well, the office. I'm not to big on super-traditional standard romance.

*** Don't forget, you can buy prints of my artwork here: [link] ***

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/27063649/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/27063649/ Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:01:20 PDT
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]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/26844772/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/26844772/ Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:58:11 PDT
I am working on some personal art, and I hope to post at least *something* in September. Sorry I haven't been looking at deviations and commenting and stuff. It's been so frustrating not being able to do more personal work, and looking at everyone else's awesome stuff was making it even harder, so I've been avoiding it. Again, sorry! Just trying to keep my sanity...

It'll be a few more months before I can *really* be productive again. Starting in September, I'll be taking a couple of classes on top of working full time, but I'm expecting happy changes in my schedule come 2010. Until then, I'll try to post the random piece of art here and there. I hope some of you will stick around until then!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/25023876/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/25023876/ Fri, 29 May 2009 22:01:22 PDT
I've been pretty much non-existent on the internet for a good month, or maybe a month and a half. If there's such a thing as crunch time at my job, this is definitely the time for it (though honestly, I think our crunch time is actually more like January to November). There are so many deviations and journal entries I really want to catch up on... I'm just not sure when I'll be able to. I'm hoping things will ease up at work after 7/15.

Anyway, I just thought I'd let people know I didn't die. I'm really trying to finish the next scene of Unholy, but it's been sloooooow. On the bright side, though, I'm devoting this weekend to the development of the comic as a whole (mostly research, but I'll probably work a bit on the colors, too). Hopefully that'll do something to renew my motivation.

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/23907938/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/23907938/ Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:40:37 PDT )

I'm expecting to post the next two pages of Unholy tomorrow. I only have one more panel to finish and could do it today if I wanted to be super ambitious (a.k.a. all-nighter), but I'd rather do a thorough job and not rush it -- and I'd rather not be a zombie at work tomorrow.

I got a week of vacation coming up in early April! Which means one week dedicated completely to personal artwork. YAY!

At this moment, I'm eating Snyder's "Old Tyme" pretzels. They're the kind that's hard, but really big and fat. I'm kind of addicted...

I really am trying to catch up on looking at all the deviations and journal entries and comments I've been neglecting. I shall try my best!

Okay, yeah. I really need to not be sitting right next to the bag of pretzels...

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/23532080/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/23532080/ Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:55:31 PST

Just in case anyone didn't know. ^_^ There's no mistaking it if you know me in person, but I call myself Bob, and I admit my self portrait looks a little manly... (well, the kind of semi-manly that would probably get you beaten up a lot. ^_^) But yeah. Girl.

If you'd prefer to think of me as a guy, or maybe an alpaca, feel free. But I'm kind of curious -- how many of you thought I was a guy? Fess up! I know there's at least a few!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/23407569/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/23407569/ Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:15:43 PST -hiccups
-dandruff
-chapped lips
-a hangnail
-an ingrown hair
-halitosis
-eyelash in your eye
-hypochondria

Feel free to add to the list! ^_^

Ahem, seriously... I recently caught an icky cold that was going around my workplace. That combined with the 12 hours a day I've been working for most of this month (so horrible), and I haven't had much time to work on Unholy. ;_; I'll post the next three pencils to my scraps tomorrow, and hopefully I'll have the next four finished pages in a week or less. February has been exceedingly rough... though it seems like many of the people I watch had an unusually productive month. Yay you guys!!!

I'm hoping to not work as many extra hours anymore... I need to learn how to take a lunch break without feeling guilty. I also need to learn how to leave after working 8 hours. But it's just so hard... Yet it's draining and bad for my personal goals, so I really need to stop.

I remember being in college, having the instructors talk about how busy art directors are. Now that I kind of am one, I totally see what they mean.

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/22852190/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/22852190/ Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:09:13 PST
So where am I going with this? Let's see who guessed it... Just a reminder -- I'm posting the pencil sketches for the first scenes of Unholy in my scraps section! I may move the pencils offsite from scene 3 onward. If I do, I'll be sure to post a link. But either way, I plan for my next post to be finished pages!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/22394488/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/22394488/ Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:01:13 PST
P.S. =emla gave me a DA subscription. ;_; (crying because she's too nice!) Thank you again, dude!

P.P.S. Does anyone else remember wax lips? My sister got me some for Christmas. It brought back such memories, of back when I had big lips. (er, actually of back when I was a kid and we got wax lips a couple times...) I'm weird; I really like wax gum. But if I chew it for too long, my nose starts to itch...

/end important journal entry

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So I abruptly went and took down my old Unholy pages... Not only do they make me twitch, but I've started work on the new version which involves a slightly modified (and in many places, completely redone) script. So I'm hoping that people don't remember too much of what the text said in my previous version!

So, the question... Would anyone want to see the roughs for my new pages? I'm thinking of posting the pencil drawings somewhere, but I'm not sure where. It'll either be in my DA scraps or one of my art blogs, or nowhere if people aren't interested.

I'd put up a poll, but I don't have a subscription. But I'd very much appreciate it if you guys would let me know your opinion!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/22090837/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/22090837/ Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:05:20 PST
In January, I'm resuming work on Unholy. I mean full-scale, heavy-duty work. I'm amazingly anal retentive, and given the latitude, I'd spend all eternity doing research and prep work. (I've already spent the past several months doing that... reading lots of books and doing character/environment designs.) So now I'm super excited to actually start drawing again!

And my second goal/resolution for Unholy: no redo's. I tend to be very easily discouraged and don't usually look fondly back at my old artwork, so I'm always tempted to do stuff over and over again. To be honest, this is my third time starting over on Unholy. So from now on, no more! We shall only move forward!

Thank you very much to those of you who have patiently watched me all this time and commented on or faved my piddly little drawings. I've mentioned being discouraged easily -- hence the long silences and me avoiding DA for extended periods. It's very nice to know that there are some people who have been willing to put up with it, and I will try my best to be less frustrating in the future! ^_^

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/20210656/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/20210656/ Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:41 PDT
In other news... work has been insanely busy as usual. I don't have much time to do personal work anymore, which is very sad. So I've had to be picky about what I work on, and I am continuing work on Unholy. It was a pretty big blow when my hard drive crashed and I lost a huge chunk of pages from the story, but it made me decide that if I'm gonna have to redraw stuff, I might as well redraw it way better. So I've gone back to the drawing board, so to speak, and I'm giving the story a complete overhaul. New character and environmental designs, etc. Starting with the main characters, which I'm uploading today.

I won't post pages until I have a good enough amount that I won't leave people hanging in the middle of the story again. So it may be awhile. Thanks for bearing with me!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/17370466/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/17370466/ Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:59:29 PDT
But realistically, I just don't have time to do it like I did it back when I was in school. There's a chance that I might end up posting just uncolored inks instead of full color. But I haven't decided yet. I really hate posting unfinished stuff! But then maybe posting at least the inks is better than posting nothing... Such a hard decision!

Anyway... not that I have anything against the rack of lamb or the Johnsonville Bratz, but the next several pieces I do -- both Unholy stuff and other stuff -- will be more "pretty," and I'll pay more attention to the rendering and technical stuff. Because I miss that, especially since for the past three months I've just been doing art directing and quickie concept art.

Also, I'm sooo sorry for not replying to everyone who's commented, favorited my stuff, and/or watched me over the past three months. I really appreciate each and every favorite, comment, and watch, and I apologize that I couldn't thank everyone personally. But like I said, it's definitely appreciated!

Wow, that was a lot of babbling!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/16011500/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/16011500/ Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:23:45 PST

Hahaha, yeah right. Try 5,000 pageviews. But I'm still excited! Looks like I'll probably get there before the end of the year, so yay. I'll try to draw a little picture around that time... These pageviews didn't come fast or easy, so I'm grateful to all the people who came to see my artwork!

I've been seriously lagging on Unholy, and on new artwork in general. I'm currently working on a Christmas commission that I'll be able to post slightly before Christmas. (I have to wait until the gift is given so I don't spoil the surprise.) After that, it's time for Unholy! I've been concepting a lot for it, but I need to get to it and start drawing.

I'm starting a new job on January 2! FINALLY, my first full time art job out of college. ^_^ I'll be busy, but I think the job will actually help me be more productive in my personal work. It always seems to go that way.

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/15375584/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/15375584/ Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:45:49 PST

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I finally have a new computer that can keep up with large image files. That means that I can resume work on Unholy! I plan on posting new pages from this week, but it's been such a long time since I've posted pages that I thought it would be a good idea to give everyone a chance to easily review it from the beginning.

I've also finally gotten around to actually uploading the newest versions of each page. Early this summer I redid the text used for the narration but never actually uploaded the corrected files. Well, here they are! For new readers, it's worth mentioning that Unholy uses an experimental "hybrid" format somewhere between a written novel and a traditional graphic novel, so there are times when it's pretty text-heavy.

On a side note, all of the comic pages included below have "previous page" and "next page" links within their description, so you don't have to come back to this journal just to find the next page.

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Let's start with the front cover!



And the first seventeen pages (displayed as spreads):



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Thank you for reading! And like I said, there's more to come soon!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/15346885/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/15346885/ Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:37:43 PDT emla, and I'm scared to death of her and will do whatever she says. (just kidding. ^_^ Actually, she's just a super cool dude.) Anyway, on with it!

Rules:

1. Post these rules in your journal so others know how it works.
2. Post 8 random facts about yourself in your dA journal.
3. At the end of your post, tag 8 more people to learn some random things about.
4. Go to their page and leave a comment telling them they're tagged.

(eeh, I don't wanna bother people or spam their page... If they don't know that they're tagged, it's all right!)


1. I love dumb animals. I have four dumb animals of my own -- two dumb ferrets and two dumb parrots. ^_^ Putting my own pets aside (because I love them all), if I had to choose a favorite animal species, it would totally be ferrets. If you own ferrets, you never go a day without laughing.

2. The original idea for Unholy came from a dream I had, as many of my story ideas do. (For school buddies who have seen ahead in the story -- even the "Coalition cats" came from the dream.) What was not included in the dream was Pogo (the main character)!

3. I almost decided to go into writing instead of art. Sometimes I wonder if I made the wrong choice, but it's too late to go back now! But honestly, it's probably for the best. I like doing both, and I continue to do both -- but without my training in art, I would suck so much worse at it.

4. I just got a new Macbook Pro, and I love it! It's my first Mac. But it has Windows on it as well, just so I could use WordPerfect. If WordPerfect were a person, I'd marry it. Hmm... maybe I'll use WordPerfect to type up a fake marriage license...

5. I watched The Pianist last night, and it was awesome. I'm soooo slow when it comes to watching movies. It sometimes takes me years to get around to seeing movies I want to see.

6. My favorite cereals are Kix, Rice Chex, and Corn Flakes. There might be some other that I'm forgetting, but I really love cereal -- especially the "bland" ones.

7. In real life, people are scared of me because I'm really weird and always say random (and often inappropriate) things.

8. My parents are from India. (South India -- Madras, and a non-Hindu area.) I look Indian, but act American.

Hmm... Now I gotta tag people. Don't feel pressured; only do it if you want to! These are all people who I don't know terribly well and would like to know better. Anyway, I tag:



]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/14839911/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/14839911/ Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:54:58 PDT
This is gonna sound like a really hilarious joke, but I'll say it anyway. If there was any other piece I've done that anyone was hoping to get as a print, let me know and I'll upload it. I can upload any of them except for the Clue piece, Razor Advertisement, or Mel Gibson from Braveheart. But yeah, anything else, including scraps.

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/14442068/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/14442068/ Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:44:05 PDT
I've also been focusing on trying to find that glorious first (full time illustration) job out of college. If you all have happy thoughts to spare, I could use them this coming Tuesday! (Going back for a second interview with a company I really like...)

And... back to working on my (gasp!) watercolor...

P.S. Many thanks to people who added me/favorited my stuff while I was "gone." Thank you thank you thank you!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/13051356/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/13051356/ Tue, 22 May 2007 13:41:08 PDT Bob-Artist.com, is now fully up and running! You can go there to see lots of artwork, much of which I haven't posted to deviantART.

Just a warning, though -- for those of you who are reading Unholy, you might want to steer clear of the "Pages" section on the "Sequential Work" page. Several of the thumbnails are for pages I haven't yet posted to DA, and while they're too small to read the text, don't look at them if you don't want to get the story spoiled a bit. ^_^

But anyway, please do check out Bob-Artist.com!
http://www.bob-artist.com

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/12958753/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/12958753/ Mon, 14 May 2007 20:31:50 PDT
As mentioned before, I rewrote the prologue. Same story, but told in a slightly different way. It's kind of dorky that I already posted the scene and am now posting it again in a different way, but oh well. I don't see myself redoing any of the other scenes I've already finished, so things should go much more quickly now. I've also done a bit of "rearranging" with the cover and splash page stuff. And finally, I'm now going to be uploading spreads instead of single pages, since I've been designing them as spreads anyway.

I'll be moving the old pages to the scraps section. I plan on uploading all the previously posted stuff today. You may also notice that there are more pages behind mature content filters. I decided that it was better to do it that way than to censor the dialogue.



Blah blah blah. I think you guys get the point.

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/12882651/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/12882651/ Mon, 07 May 2007 23:53:00 PDT
It's been an absolutely crazy semester. I was the coordinator for organizing our senior thesis show this year, and it was a whole lot of work, long stretches without sleep (with 60 hours being the longest), and quite a bit more drama than I would have cared for. But still, it was a great learning experience!

Unfortunately, much of the artwork I'm most proud of this semester can't be posted online, since I plan to send it out to publishers. But there's still other stuff to show as well. Like my thesis!

For my thesis, I completed three scenes from Unholy, of all things. For those of you who don't know, Unholy is the comic I've been working on. I'm now just about done with the first 34 pages, and I'll be posting them soon! I ended up going and rewriting the prologue as one of the scenes for my thesis. I'll probably move the old prologue to scraps. Nothing's changed in the storyline, just in the way I'm presenting it. So yeah, that means I'm kind of going to be re-uploading from scratch. But considering that almost all of the pages are done, this should go by rather quickly.

So anyway, thank you to all those people who watched me or fave'd my work, whom I haven't thanked personally. You guys are awesome! And I got a lot of catching up to do...

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11798123/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11798123/ Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:59:03 PST
First off, Unholy uses a hybrid format. It's sort of a mix between a comic and a written novel. This wasn't as evident in the prologue, but it becomes a little more clear in the next pages. This story is fairly text-heavy. I personally love prose, and I love reading, so there's no way I'd be able to discard it completely.

Secondly, there will be limits to what I post on deviantART, for a couple of reasons. There is some, ahem, "strong language" in this story, but I don't want to have to put all my pages behind mature content filters, so I'll be uploading what is essentially a censored version of the story. (I won't censor images, though; any page with "mature" images will be labeled as mature.)

Also, this story will be in print and on sale when it's done. For this reason, I can't put the whole story online. This was my intention from the beginning, and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about that before. In a few more months, I'll be entering the "professional world," so unfortunately, this is how it has to be.

Okay, enough explanation. Enjoy the story!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11231093/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11231093/ Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:09:16 PST
Anyway, these are the ones I plan to delete:
VD Crab
Corn and Bourbon
Plato
Self Portrait (the old one where I had long hair)
Sharmila
American Girl TODAY
Pastel Nude
Sotiria Cover Art (but I'd leave up the detail shot in my scraps)

I plan to delete these exactly two weeks from today, so if anyone actually wants to keep a copy of any of those, that's how much time you have to save it to your computer. ^_^

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11155225/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11155225/ Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:50:13 PST
]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11118314/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/11118314/ Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:59:15 PST
I'll also be posting pages of Unholy, the comic I'm working on for my thesis. Yippee!

Oh yeah, and I also updated my "Why Do Men Have Nipples?" picture, so it now has decent typography. Again, yippee!

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/9698868/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/9698868/ Sat, 12 Aug 2006 05:32:59 PDT
Anyway, I apologize to everyone who may have added my stuff to their favorites, or who may have added me to their watch list, whom I didn't thank. I AM grateful to all of you; I've just been away too long to conceivably catch up with all the posts that have been made. Same goes to people on my watch list who've added artwork -- I apologize for not commenting, but I will do my best to go through your galleries and take a look at your new stuff! ]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/8146911/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/8146911/ Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:49:06 PST *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7532351/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7532351/ Sat, 07 Jan 2006 03:30:26 PST
Baah, but I still had so many ideas I wanted to do! ;_; ]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7407427/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7407427/ Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:52:21 PST
Aah, I should really learn to read things more carefully. ^_^

]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7260459/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7260459/ Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:36:27 PST
Right now, deviantART is being mean to me and deciding not to load any thumbnails. That happens a lot... ]]> *bob-artist http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7101877/ http://bob-artist.deviantart.com/journal/7101877/ Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:01:55 PST *bob-artist