http://search.deviantart.com/?q=by:zannechaos&section=today deviantART RSS for by:zannechaos en-us Copyright 2009, deviantART.com Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:18:37 PST deviantART.com http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://s.deviantart.com/minish/widgets/apple-touch-icon-precomposed.png http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/3232440/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/3232440/ Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:22:21 PDT
I don't even have time to do the writing I want to do, not really. Or draw. Although I've managed to squeeze out that pic of Zaffyre, and write a short ficbit for an RPG. -_-;;; Other than that... I'm just trying to keep sane and keep from completely burning out. I'm trying to get this all done by November - and with how fast the days evaporate, I'm not sure...

Why November? NaNoWriMo, of course! I have an outline waiting in the wings already. I love using NaNo for draft writing. It forces me to ignore my demand for absolute perfection right out the gate, which really frells up my writing sometimes.

And no, don't expect to see The Vantage Ground posted anywhere unless you're one of the very, very, very few allowed in the LJ community chaos_inc, where a handful of people can critique stuff. It's going to go to a publisher someday. And this particular book's an allegorical representation of some of the behind-the-scenes crap that's been leaving me twitchy and wanting to bite things a lot this year.

::sighs:: My kingdom for a few extra hours in the day.

EDIT:

Well, I was finished earlier than I thought I'd be on the headshot of Zaffyre in humanoid form. I was going to paint on a uniform, but... for the time being, it feels complete. I felt like it was finished, and I should preserve a record of it as it is, and add to it later on.

Also... When I checked in on the 28th, I had over 300 things in my message center. Almost 200 devitations to view. I have no time and I'm on dial-up besides and that number (which admittedly is my own fault for getting too busy to check here -- but half the time I was too busy to even read my journal flist!) just made my eyes cross, so I deleted all but 10 things or so from the center.

Return of the Edit:

Talking with ~Asrimal, I decided to do something. I've uploaded an old pic I drew in April, 2001. If you want to compare my art from then and now... [link]

Constructive criticism can go a very, very long way, when given to someone who truly listens. I think this shows it. ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2479165/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2479165/ Fri, 21 May 2004 18:57:44 PDT

Two of the pictures I just submitted (the two NOS-related ones) I did while I was sick. The third (StoneSoup) I did over the last few days to celebrate my new optical mouse when my muse latched onto a mental visual like a bulldog on a meaty bone and would not. let. go. -_- At all.

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]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2261290/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2261290/ Tue, 20 Apr 2004 06:38:54 PDT
Again.

Dammit.

Thursday, I called up to make an appt with the doc because I could barely breathe between coughing fits and badly swollen glands. I got told that my doctor no longer accepted my insurance. o_O And the other doctor in the center who did was booked solid that day and wouldn't be in on Friday.

I figure as fast as I was going through symptoms, I'd probably be better by Monday, so meh. Heh. Saturday night, NyQuil no longer cut it. I took two different varities of NyQuil (cough and regular) and Robitussin cough pills, and still could not stop coughing. I finally wound up sitting up in a Lazyboy chair and sucking on Halls until I dozed off for a little bit.

Come Monday, I'd had maybe a grand total of 5 hours of sleep by that point because I could not stop coughing. It was a very dry, very painful cough. I felt like someone worked over my sides with a baseball bat and my throat was sore. Not typical sore-throat sore, but fatigue-sore like my sides from coughing fits. I call to make an appt because I'm desperate. Then I find out that my doctor still takes my insurance, just not new patients (and the idiot at the desk who answered the phone has been there as long as I've been going to that office - since 1999 - and knows damn good and well I'm not a new patient.) So I get to go back to see my doctor.

I thought it was all up in my upper chest where the dry, nonstop cough seemed to be coming. No sinus problems, nothing. He listens to my lungs, moves the stethascope down to my lower lungs and got a total "OMGWTFBBQ" expression. o_O Turns out I actually have very bad, very congested bronchitis. -_- No wonder NyQuil wouldn't make a dent.

So now I'm currently loaded down with an antibiotic, a prescription-strength decongestant, and codiene-based cough syrup.

And sleep is a good, good thing. So is codiene. I love that stuff.

Maybe now I can get back to drawing again. I haven't been able to even try since I had to erase every other line and then some because I couldn't keep my hand steady enough to control the mouse to draw the picture with the nonstop coughing fits.

I hate bronchitis.

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]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2227309/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2227309/ Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:04:16 PDT
Text on the uniform will be clearer in final project. The sizing down from 2000 px showed me what I need to watch out for when I finalize the actual picture.

The picture itself will be explained when I upload the final version after I get it done...but it may be some days yet. I think I need to rewatch Lion King since Google Images aren't giving me a decent paw reference for a standing lion that's not obscured by grass. -_-

Haven't decided where I'm uploading this. No, it's not fanart. I think it'll belong in the dark/morbid category though. Heh.

You can find it here: [link]

...now I'm gonna go see if I can possibly get some sleep. Sleep and I have not been talking lately, mainly because the sheer inability to breathe normally or swallow tends to interfere with that.

And on a completely random tangent, I love J Chaos more than I ever thought possible to love another human being. And I'm damned lucky to have a friend as special as ~unoriginalchaos. And hell, ~beccastareyes is pretty damn nifty in her own right too. And no, it's not just the drugs talking. I don't tell people when I appreciate them anywhere near as often as I ought to.

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]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2223759/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2223759/ Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:47:52 PDT
I can't complain too much, though. Aside from a fever and swollen glands, I'm pretty symptom-free.

...of course, the glands make it nigh impossible to swallow sometimes, which makes it hard to sleep. -_-

I also hate it when my muse attacks me at these times. ...okay, well, technically, it didn't. It attacked me with an idea Easter morning, before I got sick all'a sudden come afternoon that day. But really! The polite thing to do would be to quit bothering me to finish it until I'm feeling better.

...oh, who'm I kidding? -_- I'm too drugged and half-asleep most of the time to do anything else. Even HTML (which I can and have done half-asleep before) feels like too much work. -_- And I'm done reading the book I was reading so... eh.

At least my left hand isn't spasming painfully every time I try to type the way it was last week. -_- April must not be my month, apparently. Odd, since it's also my birth month. What'm I, cursed?

End random fever-induced bitch session.

Member Of: ~slayers-club - ~ Xelloss-Zelgadis - ~valgaav-worship - ~ SlayersThing - ~zel-n-ame - ~ slayers-trad - ~hopeless-romantics - ~ christians ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2190823/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2190823/ Sat, 10 Apr 2004 06:27:20 PDT
Eh, it'll get it better. It always does eventually. But in the meantime, I haven't exactly been a little ball of energy over here, which is why I've not been poking my head out much in places.

Of course, as soon as I do, my muse attacks me.

I don't have much to say right now. But I'm okay.

Member Of: ~slayers-club - ~ Xelloss-Zelgadis - ~valgaav-worship - ~ SlayersThing - ~zel-n-ame - ~ slayers-trad - ~hopeless-romantics ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2089559/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2089559/ Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:19:56 PST zannechaos,
Your 40 deviations were viewed 683 times, with 783 fullsize views.
Overall, people left 114 comments and added your deviations to their favourites 15 times.
Your most commented deviation was St. Paddy's Day Contest - X+F with 12 comments, while your most favourited one was Xellos-Jareth + Filia-Sarah with 3 favourites.
Average comments per deviation: 2.85
Average favourites per deviation: 0.37
1 Favourites were given for every 10 Comments
Every 1 days you upload a new deviation, and you uploaded 35% (14) of your deviations on Saturdays, while your favorite time of the day during the week to upload is at 9 PM with 10 deviations.
Your busiest month was February 2004 with 34 (85%) deviations.

Stats provided by ~micahgoulart @ Ingenial.com [link]

Nabbed from ~mazokugirl

Member Of: ~slayers-club - ~ Xelloss-Zelgadis - ~valgaav-worship - ~ SlayersThing - ~zel-n-ame ~slayers-trad ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2078734/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2078734/ Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:35:02 PST bgeezus's!

And the fact this is starting up just as she's trying to get away from drawing you... I'm wise to you. Now, may I have my muse back so I can be up to the task of drawing a pic of Dante and Trish which a certain picture of Frank Castle inspired? I've never tried drawing bloody wounds before...

Member Of: ~slayers-club - ~ Xelloss-Zelgadis - ~valgaav-worship - ~ SlayersThing - ~zel-n-ame ~slayers-trad ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2039043/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2039043/ Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:24:07 PST

I finally finished compiling the first part of it that shows what Filia was facing, why she chose what she did, and what Xellos and Zellas both thought of the situation.

You can find on my JournalFen here: [link]

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Although Zellas had chosen to form a body in her throne room on the island to partake in pleasures otherwise unobtainable to her, she could quite clearly hear her priest in the astral plane when he signaled her.

Lord Beastmaster, a unique situation is arising and forming even as we speak.

Indeed? Do tell, she replied, studying how the light refracted through her faceted goblet, casting a warm glow on her hand through the bourbon.

You may be so inclined to observe this yourself. It would appear that the Dragon Priestess who has been traveling with Inverse's party is seeking an escape from her temple.

Escape? A Dragon? You make it sound like they're running a prison instead of a house for the gods, Zellas replied, sipping the fine liquor.

It would seem that particular temple for all intent and purposes, is a prison in disguise. But the most interesting aspect to all of this, she has come to me for sanctuary.

Zellas blinked, pausing in mid-sip for all of a second before spitting the bourbon, spluttering. "What the shit is this?" she said aloud, not even noticing the spilled liquor at the moment. It wasn't that significant in the immediate scheme of things. "Is that crazy Dragon for real?"

Although the words were spoken physically, Xellos had no trouble hearing his creator. Quite real, I assure you, my lord, he said.

"I have got to see this!" she muttered, disappearing entirely onto the astral plane. Without anyone holding it, the goblet of bourbon clattered to the floor.

Member Of: ~slayers-club - ~ Xelloss-Zelgadis - ~valgaav-worship - ~ SlayersThing - ~zel-n-ame ~slayers-trad ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2002122/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/2002122/ Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:56:40 PST bearing in mind I'm a X/F 'shipper, mkay?--

"Everything I've done, I've done for you. I move the stars for no one."

"Your eyes can be so cruel, Just as I can be so cruel."

"That's not fair!"
"You say that so often, I wonder what your basis of comparison is."

"I ask for so little. Just love me, fear me, do as I say... and I will be your slave."

I think we can guess what I'm drawing now. Crossovers! Wee!

Member Of: ~slayers-club - ~ Xelloss-Zelgadis - ~valgaav-worship - ~ SlayersThing - ~zel-n-ame ~slayers-trad ]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1976428/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1976428/ Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:11:34 PST
...and yet...

...yet...

He's not. He's a hard one to define. I suppose he might technically be a Switch, but that's not exactly true. Being a Switch implies that someone might submit to someone they'd also Dom. That...I can't see. I don't see Xellos as viewing himself as having an equal. Everyone is either above or below him. Some may come close, but no one actually *IS* his equal. If he's above them, he's always the one in control.

But he's also a character who would be -- and is -- very submissive to anyone above him in the Mazoku chain of command. I suppose that's something of a 'duh' there, but it never actually occured to me before, not quite in that context. Xellos is utterly devoted to and obedient toward Zelas, and by default, those above Zelas. It hit me just how true this is when I saw a fanart [link] by ~bgeezus the other day. I've been mulling this over in my head for a while now. It struck me as very IC for Xellos, yet you can likely tell from my artwork that I veiw him very much as a true Dominant, not submissive in the slightest.

But in this instance, it's Shabby who he's actually submitting to. And Shabrangido is definitely above him, even above Zelas. Xellos could be the poster child for the Mazoku race for what a Mazoku is and ought to aspire to be, in terms of a servant. He was aggressive toward Gaav because as far as he was concerned, Gaav was a traitor, and therefore not one of them, and not the slightest bit worthy. Canonically, he does despise Phibrizzo, but he followed orders. However, his loyalty is first, last, and always to Zelas, so her own orders took precedence over Phibby's (the reason why he was also investigating everything on his own time, as he indicated to Gaav in NEXT.)

Xellos isn't a Switch. He perceives no one to be his exact equal, and there is no one he dominates who he would submit to, under regular conditions. (irregular conditions would be, for example, Lina. Normally, no. But when LoN herself was possessing Lina, ohhellyes.) But he is both a true Dom and a true sub at the same time. Juxtaposition and paradox.

Damn, I love this character. ^_^

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1887015/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1887015/ Fri, 27 Feb 2004 06:14:51 PST Your attention please! Yet another victim newcomer has been assimilated joined !

drumroll, please! Please to ~ beccastareyes ^_^


(Feb 22) If you like Vision of Escaflowne and The Slayers, may I direct your attention over to the lovely, shiny ~unoriginalchaos? She's finally getting around to doing something with her dA account, and is uploading her pretty, shiny, nifty artwork.

One of my favorites is one she did for me for Christmas '03, set in an RPG we're in, with an OC of mine, and Celena Schezar of Escaflowne: [link] Go see and appreciate the shiny. ^_^

Her icon is something I put together as a surprise for her using an icon she made for over on LiveJournal.


Go welcome her to ! ^_^

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]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1841339/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1841339/ Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:05:30 PST
Imagine if you will what being in Filia's shoes is like. You're not quite fully an adult, just a teenager, and you've never questioned the answers given to anything in your life. Black is black and white is white. You're assured of who you are, what you are, and your place in the world. You have very little questions, and many, many answers.

Then you find out everything's a lie. Your family? You've discovered you're expendable to them. All the beliefs and values they've instilled in you? Lies. So many lies all tangled up within one another, how can you possibly begin to tell where the truth begins, if there's any truth at all? And to top it off, every last one of them dies before you can even ask them why, let alone get any sense of closure.

You've never really had to worry about anything before. Where would your clothes come from? What about soap? A roof over your head and food on the table? You've never had to worry about your basic needs, and you have only a vague idea of what goes into running a household. And now, abruptly, you find yourself alone and forced to find out, not just for yourself but for a child you've adopted, someone orphaned by the deeds and lies of your family.

You know nothing of raising a child, and your purse is a bit light. You have a couple friends to help out, but it's still difficult. You know your first objective is to try to get enough money to buy a place to live; inns are expensive, after all, and once you have a stationary place, you can try to sell some crafts you know you can make. Even if you get a windfall and get a decent deal on a house that's mostly furnished when an old widow moves out to live with her son's family, you're still not out of the woods.

It costs money to set up a shop. Food costs money. Your dress has become a bit worn from all the traveling, and so have your boots. Can you afford new clothes? Do you even know how to sew your own? You can't exactly go into JoAnn's Fabrics and pick up a pattern in those days, and store-bought clothes are rather pricey. No. Your boots, you'll have to figure out a way to make do, repair the soles if necessary. You find a trunk of old, out of style dresses in the cellar, but none of them fit. You get practical and piece dresses together, trying to find things that don't clash too much, and try to make them look somewhat presentable.

Food. Where do you get your butter? Your milk? Your eggs and your meat and your bread? Where are your vegetables? You'll have to start a garden; until then, it's spending money at the market. You could probably afford a few hens for eggs, since feeding them wouldn't be too pricey and good hens are productive, but a cow and a pig? Forget it. You're still trying to figure out how to put food in the bellies of three people and a growing baby; you don't need to worry about the cost of grain and hay. So for the time being it's more expensive than it's worth to buy the livestock. You keep buying your milk and meat at the market. Do you know how to make butter? What about soap? You don't have a pig to slaughter in the fall, so you don't have the fat you need to boil in with lye to make soap. You'll have to buy it. Firewood's another big chore, since you don't have a wagon to haul it back into town. Candles - do you have the supplies and the knowledge to make them? You'll have to buy them if you don't, and oil for the lamps. Just one expense after another that you never really thought about before. And you still have to get that shop up and running. What about when winter comes? Do you know how to prepare food and can it? Do you even have the equipment for it? Can you afford it? Can you afford to NOT afford it come winter?

Now let's look at the child - do you know how to raise a child? Do you have any good role models in your life to emulate? Do you know what normal interaction in a family should be like? There were so many lies, how do you know if you're doing it right, or if you're becoming like them? And what of the child? Will he hate you when he finds out the truth of who he is, and what you are? And you're lonely. There's no one you can really talk to, it seems, and you're proud. You don't want people to know about all the darkness you keep locked in a deep little place in your heart, the fears, the doubts, the anger. You used to have all answers and no questions. Now you have no answers and nothing but questions, and no one to really ask.

You're alive.

But will you survive the storm?

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1836818/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1836818/ Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:12:59 PST
I'm not even sure how I'm gonna manage doing this pic I've just been mused to do. -_- It's not even just one pic. I'm gonna have to make a bunch of new X/F fanarts for a frickin' collage to do this. -_-;;;

I might be drawing, but first, last, and always, I'm a writer at heart. My muse works because it has stories to tell, and this is no different.

If you like themes that run along the lines of D/s (Dominant/submissive) in the BD/SM Spectrum, but not pornish, that's what I'm seeing for this. Xellos as I see him is such a possessive, controlling Dominant. And Filia... oy. Every little personality trait that peeked out in TRY, she's a true submissive, through and through. It's a good match, actually.

That's why I always say that if X/F is handled correctly, it could so easily rank among the greatest love stories ever told, even if Mazoku might not be capable of love as a human comprehends it. (Note: I didn't say Mazoku are incapable of love, period. But he's not human - why should his emotions be defined on a human's terms? I believe he IS capable of love, in his own way.)

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1830816/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1830816/ Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:42:33 PST
Then I come back and observe what I've done, and it dawns on me that at the moment, before the tweaking and detail work's finished... he looks like some deformed, mutated alien creature.

I never had an easier time drawing his hair than I did today after making that observation.

And now he's still mad at me because I've got his hair colored in, and I'm doing Gaav's -- red and green. I can't keep from humming 'It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas' now.

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1828780/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1828780/ Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:58:05 PST

But you know it's time to try to get some more sleep when Gaav starts bitching in your head because you've made his eyebrows TOO bushy.

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825531/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825531/ Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:19:00 PST
I don't really *need* this. o_O

I think I'll reserve it for making notations on certain themes/universes/inspiration sources that will likely either crop up frequently or require a bit of explanation, and link to them in the art description.

And wee! has a dA now! Somebody already took her name. ;_; "Unoriginality" . But UO took my suggestion and went with her current selection. She just got it today and she's in the middle of moving, but once that's done with... She's like me. ^_^ Slayers, Escaflowne, and Devil May Cry fan; a Xellos/Filia 'shipper, Val/Filia 'shipper, Dante/Trish 'shipper, Van/Hitomi, and Celena/'Slayers - Dilandau/'Slayers 'shipper. She's also in all but one of the RPGs I list, and the one she's not in, she helped found and used to play. So a lot of our artwork is cross-mused.

Who else reads 'DeviantArt' as 'DeviantTart'?

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825461/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825461/ Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:18:45 PST unoriginalchaos and I are working together co-writing a rather dark, angsty Filia/Val fanfic that's a study of madness, grief, and insanity. ^_^

It's not currently available to the general public yet, but if you're friended by the LJ account 'zannechaos2' ( [link] ) snippets are posted there in progress.

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825444/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825444/ Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:58:43 PST
It's a public RPG. Feel free to check out the information on the website: [link]

Any artwork directly derived from the Sea of Chaos RPG will likely be marked with (SoC) and provide a link back to this entry.

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825424/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825424/ Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:53:49 PST
While it's been overdone in fanfics to the point of saturation, it's amusing in practice. Especially if you wind up de-aging an older character and sticking them back in math class (which is taught by Yakko Warner, by the way...) and it's just amusing to play with their annoyances and frustrations.

It's even more entertaining when one's playing Cable from Marvel comics...teaching *psychology*...first period. "It's too flonqing early for this!"

Anyhow, any artwork mused by this RPG will have a note to the universe, and a link to this entry.

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825405/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1825405/ Fri, 21 May 2004 18:27:38 PDT
There's two timeline spinoffs (Platinum and Millennium) and one former timeline (Alternate) that became Platinum when it was 'reset' by a Goddess. There's three main timelines - First Generation, Second Generation, and Third Generation. 2nd Gen is when the children of the 1st Gen characters are all grown up, and 3rd Gen is when the children of the 2nd Gen characters are entering adulthood.

There's a lot of characters and a lot of twists, so to explain it would require a bit of time and a few anti-psychotic drugs. ^_^ Links to more information can be provided upon request, but there's no promises any of it'll make sense.

Any artwork labeled 'Stone Soup' is from this game, and will sport a link back to this entry.

RPG Website can be found here: [link]

]]> ~zannechaos http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1816477/ http://zannechaos.deviantart.com/journal/1816477/ Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:59:54 PST
I play Filia, Amelia, Tasslehoff Burrfoot, and an original character in the game.

A link to game information will be provided as soon as there's anything to actually link to...

That's a very strange world. It's a chaotic nexus world that certain characters have been pulled into to try to fix the timelines and stabilize time and the multiverses before they all collapse in on themselves. Everything's gone topsy-turvy because of all the frequent alternate universe crossovers that have broken down the stability of the fabric of time. There's flying, oinking, zebra dogs, stairs that go upside down, rain that falls sideways (and it's not always water. Sometimes it's pencil shavings. Or gumdrops) and it hails produce. It snows on boiling hot days, and ice melts when it's cold. The moon changes shape, and sometimes the sun goes backward.

And if Xellos seems a bit more human and out of normal character, it's because he got hit by the chaotic forces going around. He's no longer as powerful as he was (although he's still easily the most powerful of the group) and he actually tires, and gets hungry (negative emotions no longer provide sufficient nourishment) and above all, he's actually starting to feel emotion - even positive things.

Side note: This is a private 'What-If' idea spin-off of the Multiverse High RPG. ( [link] ) Some elements will refer to that, and even possibly harken back to events there.

]]> ~zannechaos